Jamieishere1 mowi:

Dec 14, 2011 - Sorry for so many comments, just to clarify, gender does appear to be objectively definable (or close to it) in terms of sex chromosomes (X or Y). My point about gender roles/acts not being that clearly applicable was that there is no way to act as if you have a Y chromosome, you either do or do not and it is totally beyond your control.

thecatfish111 mowi:

Dec 15, 2011 - Just because some African countries are "anti-gay" doesnt mean there are none or even a few gay people. They are just less visible. The number of homosexuals that exist stay the same regardless of a society's view of homosexuality. And no not every American fully accepts homosexuality but that doesnt matter. America doesn't criminalize the status of being gay which Uganda and many other African countries does. So America is no hypocrite

thecatfish111 mowi:

Dec 15, 2011 - If you think homosexuality is wrong thats ok. It's your right to believe in what ever you want. But you are not allowed to openly discriminate, persecute, punish, or kill someone just because they are gay. If the country of Uganda or other countries decide that it is ok to treat human beings in that manner than they can expect America and the West to pull foreign aid and other economic support. We did it to apartheid SA and we'll do it again

sittingbull706 mowi:

Dec 15, 2011 - OH thats a big threat. Be my guest & cut it off. Its nothing but rice and birth control ANYWAY. We will cut u off from our diamonds,gold,oil,steel,& the THOUSANDS of our other natural resources being exported for next to NOTHING ! We will cut your tourists off from THE MOST BEAUTIFUL scenery & animal wildlife.When its all said & done we will be drastically more self sufficient, the western imperialist economy will collapse, and we will STILL FIGHT sexual terrorism

Jamieishere1 mowi:

Dec 15, 2011 - @Bossk333 Get away from what? Same sex couples have no profound destructive effect on those around them. Do you believe that any gay Ugandans can simply teleport to a gay-friendly country? Given that their family's often kick them out so they have to go and live in a slum at a young age, they're even less able to migrate than the average Ugandan.  Uganda is just 1 example of course. Your "argument" would work just the same for apartheid.

Jamieishere1 mowi:

Dec 15, 2011 - @Bossk333 Race, religion and ethnicity are sacrosanct in this respect because exhibitors of these characteristics have no significant effect on those around them, just like homosexuality. People have in the past felt disgusted by people of certain races and especially the notion that they might have a relationship with a member of another race... a disposition that left a lot of people hanging from trees. If you have an irrational disgust of something, it is your job to distance yourself.

Jamieishere1 mowi:

Dec 16, 2011 - @Bossk333 I agree, it is ridiculous to oppose polygamy. However, it is a separate issue and one that should be debated separately, on it's own merit. I have not so far heard a justified argument against it though.

riptow420 mowi:

Dec 17, 2011 - Speaking out is one thing. Cutting off humanitarian aid is completely different. So if they dont make it legal for Gay rights them everyone starves. Gay or not they all need food. Bottom line: Everybody suffers if they cut off the money. Gays not only will be discriminated against but they will suffer monetarily as well.

RCSVirginia mowi:

Dec 20, 2011 - If African nations want to persecute their gay citizens and deny them their full human rights, even to the point of convicting them of crimes that are not crimes in any civilized land, then, they can do it without our money.

israel8952 mowi:

Jan 25, 2012 - someday ....in a far away time' people will look back in shame' on the way we treated gay people.

Prodma000 mowi:

Feb 9, 2012 - Since President Obama came into office the white gay and lesbian community has taken this opportunity to target the African-American community for what they deem as "homophobia" The word itself gets lost in translation because you have to express FEAR! I fear no one but GOD first. But without bringing the Bible into the discussion let me lay out to the white gay and lesbian community the problem that African-Americans and Africans on the continent are having with this policy. Whites have way of

Prodma000 mowi:

Feb 9, 2012 - "imposing" themselves, religion, ideology and sex on indigenous cultures around the world. Homosexuality,as it is expressed today, has never existed nor has it been apart of African culture. For African-Americans this fact would be more prevalent especially in slavery how men, women and children were systematically sexually abused and raped. It is well documented as well as our deep oral traditions of what had taken place in our people's history. As a result of this Our people were

Prodma000 mowi:

Feb 9, 2012 - left with the legacy of this tragedy. Thru time we were able to adapt in our own way to heal our wounds emotionally as well as others. If we had gays and lesbians in our community or family it was well hidden, for in those time you couldn't BE BLACK AND GAY BECAUSE , AS MY FATHER STATED, THAT GAVE THEM (KKK) MORE REASON TO KILL YOU! Martin and Coretta King, Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey, Nat Turner, Harriett Tubman, Frederick Douglass,Cheikh Ante Diop,

Prodma000 mowi:

Feb 9, 2012 - Dr. Ben Yosef, Dr. Ivan Van Sertima, Dr. Ashra Kwesi and Dr. Henry Clark ,just to name a few, weren't for white gays and lesbians. Their fight was and always has been to fight AGAINST WHITE SUPREMACY and sadly this just marks the latest chapter in our struggle. If you haven't noticed I am making a clear distinction between black gays and lesbians and white gays and lesbians for the following reasons. Blacks have always fought for ALL people's or human rights even though we OURSELVES

Prodma000 mowi:

Feb 9, 2012 - have YET to fully benefit from them. Homosexuality was always referred to in the American Psychological Journals as a "mental disorder" until it was mysteriously changed in 1973/1974. This is was included in the Global 2000 report to be used as a form of population control for black here and in Africa. They also focused on trying to induce this behavior to children in schools and to adopted children. By doing this at a young age you are able to warp the child perception that this

Prodma000 mowi:

Feb 9, 2012 - behavior is acceptable and normal. The population will be conditioned to not only accept the behavior but in doing so it will, over time ,"cull" the African population from procreating or having heterosexual relationships. Thus once again allowing blacks to "destroy themselves" Two negatives cancel each other out right. So in reference to creating the next generation, if we were to adopt these foreign policies from the white gay community what would our races population look like.

Prodma000 mowi:

Feb 9, 2012 - ..in 25 years or so? The fact that in recent years it has occurred to African-Americans and Africans abroad that there is a deliberate attempt to do this on the highest levels of government has raised red flags throughout the communities. The fact that the white gay and lesbian community as well as this government has chosen to focus on white gay and lesbian rights rather than fighting continuing RACISM against African-Americans here , Africans throughout the Diaspora and Africans

Prodma000 mowi:

Feb 9, 2012 - abroad speaks to this country's hypocrisy. Keep in mind we have gay and lesbians in our community who are still subjected to this country's RACIAL POLICIES AND DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK! White Gays and lesbians can't ever compare themselves to the holocaust our people have suffered from your ancestors and forefathers. Yet I here white gays and lesbians compare the struggle to that of our civil rights movement? Really it's sad that instead of creating your own momentum you

Prodma000 mowi:

Feb 9, 2012 - piggy-back off of the weak. I have studied and observed how white gays and lesbians regard blacks. You have even cherry-picked some straight as well as gay blacks to push your agenda. This tactic is no different from the "Uncle Tom's" we see throughout our people's history as well as now! The fact that in recent years it has occurred to African-Americans and Africans abroad that there is a deliberate attempt to do this on the highest levels of government has raised red flags through

Prodma000 mowi:

Feb 9, 2012 - out the community. Some black gays and lesbians are genuinely unaware of this because traditionally blacks usually don't think of this like this. But since we live in this type of society if you will we are forced to draw attention to this matter. I urge black gays and lesbians to sit with your elders and understand where they are coming from. They are NOT homophobic. They NEVER were. I want the Black gay and lesbian community to learn your people's history first not HIStory

Prodma000 mowi:

Feb 9, 2012 - I personally was abused at 8 years old and over the years questioned my own sexuality. It was when I began exploring my people's history and learned what had taken place did I understand knowledge of self. My youngest sister is lesbian and she too confirms my position on the issue. She stated she had always suspected this from white gay and lesbians but never to this degree! I will tell you though President Obama will not win by a landslide this time.

robbypjr mowi:

May 11, 2012 - I AGREE HOMOSEXUALITY IS THE EVIL THE WORLD SHOULD FIGHT TOGETHER

ncpmadhead mowi:

May 23, 2012 - people dont seem to grasp that alot of gay men are real men not acting camp.people thinks if your gay your camp but defo not the case in the u.k.there is some proper hard men here some are murderers.camp and gay is just a sterotype

ncpmadhead mowi:

May 23, 2012 - and nine times out of ten the people who are very hateful towards gay people have had a thought about another man in there lifetime.true fact.